RE: Questions
December 8, 2010 at 10:48 am
(This post was last modified: December 8, 2010 at 10:50 am by Anomalocaris.)
(December 8, 2010 at 5:31 am)theVOID Wrote:(December 8, 2010 at 5:16 am)Chuck Wrote: I would argue truth is a artifact of an perceptive mechanism evolved for the purpose of organizing mental models of the material world. Without intelligence, the rest of the material world continue to exist, and continue to behave. But the organized perception would not exist and so truth would not exist. So truth does not exist regardless of whether god exists. Truth only exist because you exist, and truth appears to be shared only because the perceptive mechanisms of your peers are similar, and when conditioned by similar social programing, generate similar communicable artifact.
That makes truth contingent upon minds, if no perceptive mechanism exist then nothing is true.
If truth is contingent upon minds then without minds A =/= ~A would be "untrue", which is false.
The proposition that truth is contingent upon the mind seems to me to be far different from the proposition that what is determined to true by the mind would be false without the mind. The concept to which the mind assigns a truth value would not exist without the mind.
You might postulate that something which is true must be seen as true by adequately sophisticated mind of any construction different from ours. This is difficult to establish either observationally or deductively. But even the acceptance of this does not imply independent existence of truth outside the mind. It merely means perceptive mechanism might be under certain convergent evolutionary pressure.