RE: The Reasons why "Just Following Jesus" Doesn't work
October 19, 2015 at 2:17 am
(This post was last modified: October 19, 2015 at 2:19 am by robvalue.)
Well said MTL!
What irks me the most is the obvious assumption by some Christians that they are right, and we are wrong. Further, that we know we are wrong. God is standing right in front of us, and we're denying it's existence. To someone so brainwashed as to see God literally everywhere, in a tree, in a car, in a dead child, of course it will be "obvious" to them. But to someone not programmed to respond in such a simplistic way, there is no such thing to see.
Of course there's the tu quoque waiting for any statement about even a subset of theists. But very few atheists categorically claim they are simply right and there's no possibility they are wrong, and that's still only among strong and not weak atheists. The tu quoque fails utterly against the latter.
And of course, this highlights the particularly irritating false dichotomy that either God doesn't exist, or he exists and we'd instantly worship him. If I want to make one point to Christians such as this (I'm very glad to say they are not all like this) it's that people can have an actual objection to the idea of worship itself, or with the worship of an particular thing.
What irks me the most is the obvious assumption by some Christians that they are right, and we are wrong. Further, that we know we are wrong. God is standing right in front of us, and we're denying it's existence. To someone so brainwashed as to see God literally everywhere, in a tree, in a car, in a dead child, of course it will be "obvious" to them. But to someone not programmed to respond in such a simplistic way, there is no such thing to see.
Of course there's the tu quoque waiting for any statement about even a subset of theists. But very few atheists categorically claim they are simply right and there's no possibility they are wrong, and that's still only among strong and not weak atheists. The tu quoque fails utterly against the latter.
And of course, this highlights the particularly irritating false dichotomy that either God doesn't exist, or he exists and we'd instantly worship him. If I want to make one point to Christians such as this (I'm very glad to say they are not all like this) it's that people can have an actual objection to the idea of worship itself, or with the worship of an particular thing.
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