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[TheDarkestOfAngels]

Bullshit. At most they spend a little time getting supplies at the teacher supply store during their off hours. I don't know about every district, but the one whom with the educators I have interacted with tell me they allow teachers two hours a week of on-duty hours for supply runs. Lesson plans? You get an hour out of each day for that purpose. Football games and the like where you are required to attend? Comp time.

Wow. Three bonus hours a week?
You get paid to have all that time for supply runs and preparation? That must make the <40 hour pay week and the fact that you're not getting paid for 1/4 of an entire year totally worth it.

Bullshit. Most teachers are on a yearly salary. $30000 a year is for the full year. Most have an option of having that divided into paychecks through out the school year, none in the summer, and dividing it up over the entire year. So if you are not working the 3 months of summer vacation, you still get a paycheck every payday. The week off for xmas? Paid. The week off for Tgiving? Paid.

Really? Since when? Where are you getting this information because I've taken college teaching courses and interacted with dozens from my area who actually say otherwise. You don't get paid on time off. To do that, you need to actually work. You don't get paid every single goddamn week of the year for doing jack shit.
That's why most teachers have to hope that they have the option to teach summer courses to make up for that fact.
And fuck no they don't get paid for 3 months of summer vacation. No one fucking gets paid for 3 months summer vacation.

Again I call bullshit. Most of the work you deal with is NOT outside normal buisness hours. Any required duties after hours are compensated thru comp. time. Snotty unappreciative customers? Oh waaaa waaaa waaaa... I'd bet a dime to a box of doughnuts most people will claim the work they do is for some "snotty, unappreciative" person.

Call it all you want. I don't know what teachers you're talking about but I know that the vast majority of teachers don't get the treatment you described. Maybe their pay is much better after ten years of teaching and with some of the highest schoolastic degrees you can take, but they're still underpaid for their profession and the amount of work they do, and the education they have, which you appear to be significantly underestimating.

Be that as it may, compared to jobs with similar education and schoolastic requirements to attain, they're still living on the same pay line as jobs with vastly fewer requirements, equal or more pay, more work hours in the year, and better job security.

Work at a factory for more money? Really? Please hook me up with this factory you speak of that will hire a high school drop out for $34 an hour and all the paid for bennys afforded to our teachers plus a paid 3 month yearly vacation.

34$ an hour for 365 days a year doesn't add up to 30k average yearly salary, Dot.
Maybe for the highest paid teachers in the country, but certainly not on average.
Teachers don't get paid for having 3 months off. That's what every educator that has discussed pay with me has straight up told me, as well as the people who actually teach people to become teachers. I know this because I've taken the actual classes.
No one is in this job for the money or the job security.

I once had a job that paid more actual dollars on the check than these educators and I have no college education. However my paid vacation time was 30 days and that had to be broken down into 3 increments. Can't take it all at once. Xmas? nope, gotta work. Tgiving? Nope, gotta work. Also I had to live in the desert of Iraq and work in war conditions to get it, for a minimum of 84 hours a week, minimum. Most weeks were around 120 hours for that fixed salary. Oh, and no free health club memberships, no employer paid health insurance or life insurance. The only extra freebie provided was 60mm mortor shells dropped around you while performing your duties.

So jobs exist where you have to physically work insane hours/week for good pay (only because you're working 84-120 hours a week) with no holiday vacation, no benefits, and only a week's additional paid vacation compared to most jobs (assuming 2 week is the average). In addition, of course, to living in a war zone.
That you can take with no education requirements, I assume beyond a high school education.

Yeah, I get that there are much harder jobs in the world than teaching. I don't see what this has to do with anything.

I call bullshit as I maintain any 'high school drop out' who pulls in more than a teacher is working for it. Either by major hours put in or because it is a highly dangerous life threating work.

Right right, it's not really work if it's not physical labor.
Cry me a goddamn river, as you so eloquently put it.