Wow.
The Bible: justifying being an open bigot since the Iron Age.
The Bible: for when regular crimes aren't enough and you need to invent some Thought Crimes.
The Bible: how immoral people feel sanctified and convinced that others are as bad as they are.
"Deceitful, untrustworthy - people make assertions they know they can't support, and withhold information that might benefit an opponent"
I don't make assertions I know I can't support. I would never withhold information that might benefit a debate opponent. I pride myself on personal integrity and intellectual honesty. It deeply offends me that there's a whole religion out there that teaches I am untrustworthy by nature, simply because I am not a believer.
Gossips - any time a Christian does something bad in the news, it's posted here
Is that gossip or news? Because gossip seems to me to be speculating about things a person is alleged to have done, while talking about what they actually do is simply "the news". We don't do it to paint Christians in a bad light, but to point out hypocrisy from the people who so love to tell us how their beliefs make them morally superior to us.
Greedy - people spend time and money on pleasures that could go to those who are less fortunate
Are you really advocating for communism, here? Because that's how you get communism.
Unloving, unmerciful - Christians are frequently treated without love and mercy
Bullshit. Assholes are frequently treated without love and mercy. Christians are not mistreated on this forum simply for being Christian, but for making hostile, bigoted, or incorrect (often magical!) arguments that they will not support other than to say we can't disprove the magic is real (even when we can). You will find that if you don't come here treating us like enemies, you will not be treated like an enemy. A significant chunk of the board are good, close friends and/or family with Christians, even married to them. I am engaged to be married to a Christian, and I love her (all of her, including her views about the world) like my own life. Far from being unloving and unmerciful, I am among the most loving and merciful people I know, as are many of the atheists I've known in my adult life (became non-Christian at 17), so that entire passage in Romans 1 is nothing but libelous contempt for "the enemy". You come here with contempt already in your heart.
And you wonder why we treat you with contempt in return, once you show your true colors!
The Bible: justifying being an open bigot since the Iron Age.
The Bible: for when regular crimes aren't enough and you need to invent some Thought Crimes.
The Bible: how immoral people feel sanctified and convinced that others are as bad as they are.
"Deceitful, untrustworthy - people make assertions they know they can't support, and withhold information that might benefit an opponent"
I don't make assertions I know I can't support. I would never withhold information that might benefit a debate opponent. I pride myself on personal integrity and intellectual honesty. It deeply offends me that there's a whole religion out there that teaches I am untrustworthy by nature, simply because I am not a believer.
Gossips - any time a Christian does something bad in the news, it's posted here
Is that gossip or news? Because gossip seems to me to be speculating about things a person is alleged to have done, while talking about what they actually do is simply "the news". We don't do it to paint Christians in a bad light, but to point out hypocrisy from the people who so love to tell us how their beliefs make them morally superior to us.
Greedy - people spend time and money on pleasures that could go to those who are less fortunate
Are you really advocating for communism, here? Because that's how you get communism.
Unloving, unmerciful - Christians are frequently treated without love and mercy
Bullshit. Assholes are frequently treated without love and mercy. Christians are not mistreated on this forum simply for being Christian, but for making hostile, bigoted, or incorrect (often magical!) arguments that they will not support other than to say we can't disprove the magic is real (even when we can). You will find that if you don't come here treating us like enemies, you will not be treated like an enemy. A significant chunk of the board are good, close friends and/or family with Christians, even married to them. I am engaged to be married to a Christian, and I love her (all of her, including her views about the world) like my own life. Far from being unloving and unmerciful, I am among the most loving and merciful people I know, as are many of the atheists I've known in my adult life (became non-Christian at 17), so that entire passage in Romans 1 is nothing but libelous contempt for "the enemy". You come here with contempt already in your heart.
And you wonder why we treat you with contempt in return, once you show your true colors!
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
