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Obama, the Republican 5th Column?
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RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column?
(December 13, 2010 at 7:56 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: That may well be. If Obama had won such a bill through a hard fight, it may be cause to celebrate. Liberals aren't dissatisfied with Obama because he compromises. Liberals are dissatisfied with Obama because he doesn't even try. He gives half the store away before even arriving at the table. Then he gives most of the other half away and still winds up with nothing to show for it. He's the only president I know of who negotiates himself down even from positions of strength before the other side has even had a chance to meet with him.

Given the overwhelming majorities he started with in both houses, we should have gotten a much better bill. That said, I agree we shouldn't scrap it. It may lead to better things in the future.

Once again, I can't argue with that.
Between the healthcare bill that was passed and the recent tax cut debacle, I'm wishing more and more that Hilliary Clinton won the primary (and presidency, obviously). There are few politicians that I know of that would fight as hard for something they believed in as she has done in the past. She was the one that nearly got us healtcare despite Republican majorities in the early-mid 90's. Despite her failure, it's hard to argue with a record like that.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

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Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by DeistPaladin - December 8, 2010 at 3:43 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by lilyannerose - December 8, 2010 at 4:23 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Tiberius - December 8, 2010 at 4:30 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by HeyItsZeus - December 8, 2010 at 9:04 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 8, 2010 at 9:11 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by theVOID - December 8, 2010 at 9:39 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by DeistPaladin - December 8, 2010 at 10:04 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 8, 2010 at 11:50 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by DeistPaladin - December 9, 2010 at 12:07 am
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 9, 2010 at 2:00 am
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Minimalist - December 8, 2010 at 9:14 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 8, 2010 at 9:23 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 8, 2010 at 10:01 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Autumnlicious - December 9, 2010 at 2:39 am
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 9, 2010 at 1:19 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by DeistPaladin - December 9, 2010 at 1:26 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 9, 2010 at 1:33 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by lilyannerose - December 9, 2010 at 1:45 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 9, 2010 at 2:49 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by lilyannerose - December 9, 2010 at 3:01 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Jaysyn - December 9, 2010 at 3:03 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by lilyannerose - December 9, 2010 at 3:17 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Jaysyn - December 9, 2010 at 3:22 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 9, 2010 at 3:31 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Jaysyn - December 9, 2010 at 3:42 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 9, 2010 at 3:53 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 9, 2010 at 4:17 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Jaysyn - December 9, 2010 at 4:34 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 9, 2010 at 5:53 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 9, 2010 at 6:40 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Jaysyn - December 9, 2010 at 7:55 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 9, 2010 at 10:54 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Jaysyn - December 9, 2010 at 11:22 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 10, 2010 at 4:07 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 10, 2010 at 5:35 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 10, 2010 at 9:53 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 10, 2010 at 10:54 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 11, 2010 at 2:55 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by lilyannerose - December 11, 2010 at 3:39 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 11, 2010 at 5:20 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by technophobe - December 11, 2010 at 4:17 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 11, 2010 at 5:33 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 11, 2010 at 5:42 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 11, 2010 at 7:52 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 12, 2010 at 11:46 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 13, 2010 at 2:04 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by DeistPaladin - December 13, 2010 at 2:16 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 13, 2010 at 3:01 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 13, 2010 at 3:35 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by DeistPaladin - December 13, 2010 at 4:10 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 13, 2010 at 6:49 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by DeistPaladin - December 13, 2010 at 7:56 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 13, 2010 at 8:14 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by DeistPaladin - December 13, 2010 at 8:28 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 13, 2010 at 5:12 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by lilyannerose - December 13, 2010 at 5:24 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 13, 2010 at 2:56 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Jaysyn - December 13, 2010 at 6:02 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Mishka - December 13, 2010 at 6:07 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by TheDarkestOfAngels - December 13, 2010 at 9:10 pm
RE: Obama, the Republican 5th Column? - by Jaysyn - December 15, 2010 at 2:38 pm

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