(October 28, 2015 at 10:42 am)alpha male Wrote:(October 28, 2015 at 10:10 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Yes. When a person is lied to, and facts are distorted deliberately to make a point which is not really there, it is hardly surprising that they would question the honesty of the person who lied.
I think it would be loving and merciful to assume that the person is genuinely mistaken and attempt to gently bring them to the truth, rather than call them a liar. Go figure.
Your position is basically that you treat a person well unless you don't like him for some reason. Pretty low bar.
My position is called the Tit-For-Tat Rule. In short, it means "be altruistic to others until you see they are not playing by the rules, then treat them as they treat you". You can read about it, here.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
