RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 29, 2015 at 7:47 am
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2015 at 7:51 am by ErGingerbreadMandude.)
(October 28, 2015 at 4:27 pm)Quantum Wrote:(October 28, 2015 at 12:20 pm)pool Wrote:
Yes I understand - that actually makes sense. We would eventually discover the fundamental law of physics "y+5", and unless we find deviations from it, that would be the end point of our search. However, since in reality one always measures with finite resolution and since one can never enter all possible numbers y to cross-check the theory with the black box (nature), the possibility always remains open that something new might await us - you can never know that you have found the ultimate rule. For example, 10 years later we might discover that it is actually closer to
printf("The number is %f.",(y+x)/(1+y/100000000000000.));
But then we'll still never know whether that is now the final answer. It might be even worse - we discover that the answer we get depends on other things we do, that don't seem to be captured by a single simple function. (I am mimicking here the progression from Newtonian physics (your example) to Relativity and quantum physics, respectively)
It is a deep question of philosophy of science whether such a final true rule as you propose it above exists in nature - one towards which our discovered laws of physics converge. The question is not clear at all.
I can see that you've made an effort to understand what I meant.
But you have confused some of the things I've explained.
The fundamental law of physics is not "y+x",it's "y".
"y+x" happens when a phenomenon deviates from something as normal as "y".
For example, if y was when you rolled a ball forward and it rolled forward and not backward it would be considered "y".
But if there is a wall in the path of the ball and it doesn't move forward then "y" would be considered "y+x" where x is a varying variable with an unknown value.
Science would then try to understand what the value of x Is to understand why "y" deviates from "y" to "y+x".
(I hope you were able to keep up with me :/)
Edit:
Science is a tool used to find "x". I don't even know if those supposedly science lovers and physics pros even know there is a "y".