Here's why Creatards might be right

[jenny1972]

yes obviously i do think thinking beings create universes if the universes in question are organized and the elements within the universe are cooperative and orderly i dont think organization results from unintelligent random chaos

Have you comprehended a single damn question you've been asked this entire time?

You were talking about your experiences, your observations of the world. I asked you whether your experiences showed you intelligent beings created universes; you were the one going on about observations, I just pointed out that for the importance you place on that, you certainly haven't observed the thing you believe happened. I was demonstrating the inconsistency of your position, but it seems that whenever anybody does that- and we've had oh so many opportunities to do so today- you just revert back to merely asserting your opinion and lying about what the alternative is.

You do realize that, don't you? You're flat out lying, no bones about it, when you continue to insist that we believe the universe arose from "random chaos." Why should anyone take an unrepentant, willfully ignorant liar seriously?

ive observed intelligent beings , humans , create complex things . of course ive never witnessed an intelligent being create a universe what human could witness such a thing have you ever witnessed the creation of a universe ?

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yes obviously i do think thinking beings create universes if the universes in question are organized and the elements within the universe are cooperative and orderly i dont think organization results from unintelligent random chaos

Is your universe creating deity organised and orderly?


If so, who created it?

If you are claiming there is a rule that everything that is organised and orderly requires an intelligent creator, the so does your god.

 Unless you're going to break that rule for your god.

i dont know what intelligence created that intelligence