(October 29, 2015 at 8:06 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 7:39 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Have you comprehended a single damn question you've been asked this entire time?
You were talking about your experiences, your observations of the world. I asked you whether your experiences showed you intelligent beings created universes; you were the one going on about observations, I just pointed out that for the importance you place on that, you certainly haven't observed the thing you believe happened. I was demonstrating the inconsistency of your position, but it seems that whenever anybody does that- and we've had oh so many opportunities to do so today- you just revert back to merely asserting your opinion and lying about what the alternative is.
You do realize that, don't you? You're flat out lying, no bones about it, when you continue to insist that we believe the universe arose from "random chaos." Why should anyone take an unrepentant, willfully ignorant liar seriously?
ive observed intelligent beings , humans , create complex things . of course ive never witnessed an intelligent being create a universe what human could witness such a thing have you ever witnessed the creation of a universe ?
(October 29, 2015 at 7:41 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Is your universe creating deity organised and orderly?
If so, who created it?
If you are claiming there is a rule that everything that is organised and orderly requires an intelligent creator, the so does your god.
Unless you're going to break that rule for your god.
i dont know what intelligence created that intelligence
I'm not asking you to name it.
I'm just asking if it also had to be created?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
