RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 29, 2015 at 9:56 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2015 at 10:02 pm by Simon Moon.)
(October 29, 2015 at 9:50 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 9:32 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Not actually what I'm debating with you.....though I do disagree. You've stated that the complexity or diversity or organization of life is evidence of a creator. I say it's evidence of evolution.
I have both a fact...the fact of evolution....and the scientific theory offered as an explanation of that fact, Modern Synthesis.
No, stop, you've been shitposting so completely that I damned well know, and you damned well know..that some portion of it was intentional. We have not been debating my opinions, at all, nor have we been debating my facts, at all, nor have we been debating the things I offer as explanations for those facts, at all. You've been debating..with yourself..those positions you would ascribe to me. You've been debating with yourself those positions you would ascribe to others.
I say Modern Synth explains both the complexity and diversity of life..and also it's organization. You say "godidit" explains that. This is not a disagreement of opinion. If you'd like to debate something with me, or anyone else who's responded to you.....you're going to need to debate -that-. You're going to need to explain why I, or any of them... would choose "goddidit" over Modern Synth - which neither invokes nor requires any gods to explain anything at all.
Your very last post, claiming that you havent been shitposting..that you understand..was yet another shitpost. Your string of shitposts seems designed. I have to assume that there was a designer. You must have designed them to be shitposts. That they are shitposts proves both that you are a designer, and that you designed the shitposts as shitposts.
i believe in evolution and modern synthesis , and i believe both were created by intelligent design . your opinion is that intelligent design has nothing to do with evolution and synthesis right ? thats an opinion and you have no evidence for that other than your theory that evolution and synthesis doesnt require intelligence to create it they just create themselves out of nothing . your argument is based on theory and opinion , noone is arguing evolution or synthesis but instead what started it.
Oh bloody hell!
Name one thing in evolution, anywhere along the process, that required an intelligent designer.
Because the best minds on the planet, who have dedicated their lives to the study of biology, who actually work in the field on a daily basis, with the most advanced tools ever built by humans, are not finding it.
molecules -> self replicating molecules -> self replicating RNA enzymes -> DNA -> simple cells -> simple multi-cell organisms -> the vast variation of life we see today.
Where in that process does your intelligent designer fit? And what did it actually do?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.