(October 29, 2015 at 11:41 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: why would you call that evidence and not just my opinion ?[...]
Because - as I keep saying - your opinion is irrelevant to the topic at hand. We can talk about things that can be perceived and scientifically studied - on the existence of which we BOTH agree, like physics, biology, chemistry - the material world. You want to discuss how complex nature is? That's fine. But then people who are psychologically dependent on their imaginary friends have to squeeze god (oh, sorry "intelligent designer") at every opportunity, with no rhyme or reason. And certainly with no evidence. Just because they're not interested in the science - they just want to talk about the big invisible daddy in the sky.
That's the problem with theists - looking for a shortcut to "goddidit", at every opportunity, instead of studying the subject in depth. Learn about evolution and big bang (because you obviously have very vague idea about either of those), instead of trying to extend those concepts into the unknown in order to get the result that you want - magic.
When you have ANY evidence for existence of the designer - we can totally talk about that designer. It's not that until then god doesn't exist, but that until then - it may as well not exist and trying to shoehorn it into science (specially by misattributing your belief to famous scientists, as if that was supposed to prove anything) - is simply dishonest and a waste of time.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
