(October 30, 2015 at 12:02 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:(October 29, 2015 at 11:41 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: why would you call that evidence and not just my opinion ?[...]
Because - as I keep saying - your opinion is irrelevant to the topic at hand. We can talk about things that can be perceived and scientifically studied - on the existence of which we BOTH agree, like physics, biology, chemistry - the material world. You want to discuss how complex nature is? That's fine. But then people who are psychologically dependent on their imaginary friends have to squeeze god (oh, sorry "intelligent designer") at every opportunity, with no rhyme or reason. And certainly with no evidence. Just because they're not interested in the science - they just want to talk about the big invisible daddy in the sky.
That's the problem with theists - looking for a shortcut to "goddidit", at every opportunity, instead of studying the subject in depth. Learn about evolution and big bang (because you obviously have very vague idea about either of those), instead of trying to extend those concepts into the unknown in order to get the result that you want - magic.
When you have ANY evidence for existence of the designer - we can totally talk about that designer. It's not that until then god doesn't exist, but that until then - it may as well not exist and trying to shoehorn it into science (specially by misattributing your belief to famous scientists, as if that was supposed to prove anything) - is simply dishonest and a waste of time.
ok i will go study up on evolution and biology and chemistry im sure by learning how much much more complex and intricate and coordinated everything is beyond what i know already will greatly decrease by belief that it had to be intelligently created
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain