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Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
(October 30, 2015 at 7:47 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(October 30, 2015 at 4:16 am)robvalue Wrote: Not more of this die for a lie shit? How many times!

Something doesn't have to be a lie to be untrue. People can be mistaken. And when you're mistaken, you don't know you're mistaken, because you're mistaken. It's only a lie when you deliberately mislead someone. Why do some people think no one from that era could ever be mistaken?

What this broken argument is sneakily trying to say is no one would die for a falsehood. That's not the same thing, as it assumes everyone is aware at all times which of their beliefs are actually true. This is clearly not the case, and can never be the case.

At least in the case of the death and resurrection of Jesus, I think that a mistake is unlikely.  Remember, that the distinction that is being made  is not just what is believed to be true, but people who are claiming to have seen what they are reporting.  Jesus death was public, and it is likely Romans would have ensured that the sentence was carried out.  Also in that culture, you didn't send a dead body to a funeral home, so those closest to him, would have personally prepared the body for burial.  As to the resurrection, what is going to lead to mistakes is a lack of familiarity, proximity, or time.  I don't think that any of these are lacking in the account of Jesus's resurrection that would allow for the claim that they where just mistaken.  There are also multiple testimonies so multiple people would need to be mistaken in the same way.

Jesus' death may have been public, but was the resurrection public, visible by many? Early copies of Mark do not support this.
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RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans - by Grandizer - October 30, 2015 at 8:18 am
Hmmm? - by Hmmm? - October 30, 2015 at 10:08 am

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