RE: Here's why Creatards might be right
October 31, 2015 at 12:29 am
(This post was last modified: October 31, 2015 at 12:31 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(October 31, 2015 at 12:11 am)pool Wrote: Turtle, free will is a real thing.
Nope.
Quote:Free will means control over one's actions.Nope free will means free control over your actions, but your actions are not freely controlled because your decisions aren't free.
Quote: How can one have control over one's actions before they are born?One cannot.
Quote: Or without proper brain development?Very little control is available without proper brain development, and any control that is available is still not freely controlled.
Quote:Right now I have control over my actions.
Not freely.
Quote:I can either pay for Kurkure or steal a Kurkure.The ability to do something or not do something is not a free decision.
Quote:Are my choice of actions dependent on previous experiences and dependent on the environment I was exposed to as I grew up? Yes.
Yes, and your choices of actions are very real, but not remotely free.
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Quote:But am I free to choose an action which completely contradicts my previous experiences and such? Yes.
Your actions come from your previous experiences plus how experiences affect you now. None of this gets you free will. Conta-causal free will is not possible.
Quote:Free will. Right?
Nope.