RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
November 1, 2015 at 2:59 pm
You know, Robvalue, I have been thinking about what you wrote, there, which Dr.Fuzzy was nice enough to quote for us.
I think they find this asshole "convincing" because his arguments are done from that authoritarian, "I am right and if you don't agree then you don't even deserve to know why I'm right" school of thought. They do love their authoritarianism!
I also think this is why they spend so much time and effort looking for an authoritarian equivalent in atheist circles. That we're each individual thinkers must drive them bugnuts! They pick out some of the more prominent/popular among us and try to label them "Atheist Clergy", just as they try to put a religious tag on us, "The New Atheists", because then it suits their authoritarian mindset. They think that they have then "explained" atheism (in a way that is comfortable to their understanding of the world, and the importance of hierarchy, in that worldview), and can safely dismiss it from thought. The problem is, they're completely wrong.
My favorite irony of this sort is when some fundy here showed a picture of the Pope speaking in Washington D.C. to a crowd of tens of thousands, then a picture of Dawkins speaking to perhaps 8,000 atheists, and tried to show us that our "prophet" has failed. Except not one of us did anything but shrug, not caring in the slightest what happens to Dawkins or his speeches, because we're just not built that way.
I think they find this asshole "convincing" because his arguments are done from that authoritarian, "I am right and if you don't agree then you don't even deserve to know why I'm right" school of thought. They do love their authoritarianism!
I also think this is why they spend so much time and effort looking for an authoritarian equivalent in atheist circles. That we're each individual thinkers must drive them bugnuts! They pick out some of the more prominent/popular among us and try to label them "Atheist Clergy", just as they try to put a religious tag on us, "The New Atheists", because then it suits their authoritarian mindset. They think that they have then "explained" atheism (in a way that is comfortable to their understanding of the world, and the importance of hierarchy, in that worldview), and can safely dismiss it from thought. The problem is, they're completely wrong.
My favorite irony of this sort is when some fundy here showed a picture of the Pope speaking in Washington D.C. to a crowd of tens of thousands, then a picture of Dawkins speaking to perhaps 8,000 atheists, and tried to show us that our "prophet" has failed. Except not one of us did anything but shrug, not caring in the slightest what happens to Dawkins or his speeches, because we're just not built that way.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
