(November 1, 2015 at 5:31 pm)abaris Wrote:(November 1, 2015 at 5:20 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Every atheist who joins the military.
Up for debate. Not because of individual motivation, but because of what the ones in power have in mind.
Regardless of how we might feel about the uses of a military force, the fact is that a person who volunteers to serve in a military force is pledging his life to a non-selfish cause, that of protecting his nation. How the nation chooses to define that "protection" is another matter.
My point was that you don't step in front of bullets for selfish reasons.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
