(November 3, 2015 at 11:11 am)Irrational Wrote:No. (Directly answer your question, now going to answer your objection(November 3, 2015 at 11:02 am)Drich Wrote: 20 There are things about God that people cannot see—his eternal power and all that makes him God. But since the beginning of the world, those things have been easy for people to understand. They are made clear in what God has made. So people have no excuse for the evil they do.
Not everyone practices EVIL Sport, ONLY EVIL PEOPLE.
Their is a vast difference between sin and evil.
you are usally about 4 posts behind Rocket, so why don't you save us both some time and read what i write him.
Just FYI that is why I call you two team rocket. "the smart one" comes up with a plan or idea/point of attack, fails, and the... "second one"(who is 4 posts behind) at his best, comes up with the same plan or idea expecting it to work...
What's funny is that you cant see this play out.
Dude, I'm the one who started the discussion with you, hello? And I asked you a question just now which you didn't answer.
So does everyone know of the existence of God (including the Athenians in Acts 17)? Yes or no? Leave aside that "evil" different from "sin" red herring for a minute and answer the question.If you want to 'put aside' the men in whom Paul is identifying in Romans 1:20 then you either know your arguement is at an end or you are without hope.No.
The Evil Men of Romans 20 all have been programmed with the knoweledge that A God exists, and as per romans1:20 as "THEY ALL have evidences set before Them..." but According to Acts 17:29-30 'we'/Those who seek Righteousness do not automatically know who He is specifically, as you can see in the example of Acts 17, they worshiped God wrongly out of ignorance in the past.
In romans 1:20 I refer to 'Them' because of the Greek word autos in the original text. In the ESV it is translated 'they.' The use of the word Autos/They infers at lest two groups of people. Paul identifies two groups of people in Romans 1 and in Romans 2. They are identified as Evil, while 'us/we' are identified as sinners. "they" have been given full knoweledge of God so "They" are with out excuse for the evil that They do. 'We' are called to repent for the wrong (worship in the case of acts 17) things we do.
αὐτός autós, ow-tos'; from the particle αὖ aû (perhaps akin to the base of G109 through the idea of a baffling wind) (backward); the reflexive pronoun self, used (alone or in the comparative G1438) of the third person , and (with the proper personal pronoun) of the other persons:—her, it(-self), one, the other, (mine) own, said, (self-), the) same, ((him-, my-, thy- )self, (your-)selves, she, that, their(-s), them(-selves), there(-at, - by, -in, -into, -of, -on, -with), they, (these) things, this (man), those, together, very, which.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/nasb/rom...nc_1047020
With the use of this word Paul is seperating EVIL Men From the Sinful men of Chapter 2.
You may want to 'forget the difference between The two groups of people Paul is refering to in Romans 1 and 2 inorder to save your hero expert's testimony, but in the real world we must account for EVERYTHING that is said, and not just cherry pick and window dress so we can support the people who allow us to live the way we want..
