(November 4, 2015 at 10:38 am)Drich Wrote:(November 4, 2015 at 10:25 am)Irrational Wrote: Romans 1:20 says God is perceived by the mind through his creation. This means every person with a rational mind should know of God according to Romans 1:20. What Acts 17 states or implies is that Romans 1:20 is not entirely true.
Not my problem the passages contradict.
Yes, because you know Greek now, eh? Please stop changing the intended meaning.
No he's not. He's separating the group of unbelievers from the group of believers who are pretty much just as bad as the former group because, as Paul makes clear in Romans, it's not enough to hear the law but to obey it.
Ah, I see now. You are one who believes the bible was written in english, so when you see what you think is a contradiction, you believe it to be a flaw in the scripture, and don't question the translation.
The Reason I posted the greek was to establish that the "They" in romans 20 means The Evil men being spoken of can be identified/isolated as one group of people. which breaks your claim that their is a contradiction. The only way for you to claim a contradiction is if you ignore both the english and greek and insist that the word 'they in verse 20 actually means 'we'.
20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,[g] in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
So bury your head in the sand if you like, but your arguement based on 'er-ham's work is at an end.
"They" refers to those who reject God by worshiping other gods, just as the Athenians in Acts 17 worshiped other gods instead of God. Except in Acts 17, Paul blames it on their ignorance of God rather than deliberate rejection.
But the fact that Romans 1:20 says God is perceived by the mind means that, according to Romans 1:20, all minds can perceive God, including the ones referred to by Paul.
