(November 4, 2015 at 10:25 am)Irrational Wrote: Romans 1:20 says God is perceived by the mind through his creation. This means every person with a rational mind should know of God according to Romans 1:20. What Acts 17 states or implies is that Romans 1:20 is not entirely true.Didn't i call you out for cherrypicking already? Your not even quoting a full verse. why is that? It is because the second 1/2 of the verse reframes the first 1/2 to where you can not use it in your arguement?
Not my problem the passages contradict.
Quote:Yes, because you know Greek now, eh?actually I've studied the bible in Koine greek for the last 20 years.
Quote:Please stop changing the intended meaning.
It's not me who changed the meaning of this passage. All I've done is forced you to look at the whole verse and not the smoke and mirrors Er-ham wants us to see. You can not refute nor deny what this whole verse/passage implys without cutting out the words that frame it how i have indicated. the word "they" in verse 20 points to the Evil Men Paul has identified. Not to everyone.Quote:With the use of this word Paul is seperating EVIL Men From the Sinful men of Chapter 2.
No he's not. He's separating the group of unbelievers from the group of believers who are pretty much just as bad as the former group because, as Paul makes clear in Romans, it's not enough to hear the law but to obey it.
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This maybe true, from a commentators pov, but that is not what Paul actually says. No where in Chapter 1 are the people identified as simple 'unbelievers.' they are identified as 'Evil or unrighteous Men.' Like wise while Paul is speaking to believers in Chapter 2 he makes a strong point to show them that despite their belief they are all active sinners. that is why he says do not judge the evil.

