RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
November 4, 2015 at 2:01 pm
(This post was last modified: November 4, 2015 at 2:01 pm by Drich.)
(November 4, 2015 at 12:42 pm)Irrational Wrote: You may have "studied" Koine Greek, but your reading comprehension is terrible. All unbelievers are evil according to Romans 1. Look at Romans 1:19:So you know why people quote the king james? Aside from blind tradition it is quoted because it repersents an obscure dialect. a dialect that is close enough to modern english that most can intrepret and change any way they want. So what is the cure? One we can go to a common word translation like the easy to read or goto the greek:
BECAUSE that which is known of God is manifest among them, for God did manifest [it] to them
18 God shows his anger from heaven against all the evil and wrong things that people do. Their evil lives hide the truth they have. 19 This makes God angry because they have been shown what he is like. Yes, God has made it clear to them.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/nasb/rom/1/1/s_1047001
An Honest person would ask does he mean ALL people who do not believe? or is it the Only people he has identified so far (Evil People.) Paul again has only reference Evil people. He later (end of the chapter) identifies the qualities that make them evil. He never mentions 'unbelief' as being a quality of evil. Why? because in Chapter 10 He charges the Jews with unbelief, and again says their will be those jews who do not believe (The remnant) that will enter Heaven.
Quote:That is the reason for them being evil. Their unbelief. That is their unrighteousness.maybe according to you but Paul says:
28 People did not think it was important to have a true knowledge of God.So God left them and allowed them to have their own worthless thinking. And so they do what they should not do.
This is the reason people are evil.
The following is a list of the evil things people who are described in verse
28 have on their hearts/been given over to. (Can "morally" justify)
29 They are filled with every kind of sin, evil, greed, and hatred. They are full of jealousy, murder, fighting, lying, and thinking the worst things about each other. They gossip 30 and say evil things about each other. They hate God. They are rude, proud, and brag about themselves. They invent ways of doing evil. They don’t obey their parents, 31 they are foolish, they don’t keep their promises, and they show no kindness or mercy to others. 32 They know God’s law says that anyone who lives like that should die. But they not only continue to do these things themselves, but they also encourage others who do them.
Quote:Romans 11 says no such thing. Now you're being a heretic, lol.Tisk tisk, no trying to trick me into giving you a private lesson on chapter 11. I will explain in greater detail when we all get their together.
in the meanwhile try reading chapter 10 and 11 together and with a translation that does not need it's own translation.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV