(November 4, 2015 at 1:27 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Drich, I don't understand why you persist in this hair-splitting. Paul's formula is pretty clear:
Sin nature + can't help sinning + heard the Truth of Gawd™ - accepting The Truth™ = Evil.
You're ignoring Paul's idea of redemptive theology, in which the ONLY difference between giving in to our evil impulses is to follow Jesus. Just because SOME are MORE evil-inclined than others doesn't mean he made a SPECIAL category for the former. You're telling us if we squint and look at it sideways we'll agree with your personal inside knowledge of Paul and not with the many Biblical experts from outside your clique.
As my drill instructior once advised me, "Sometimes, when everyone else is marching on the wrong foot, you should consider the possibility that it's really just you."
Book chapter and verse for your formula please.
Because in Chapter 2:10-16 Paul spells out we all sin with or without the law. (all are sinners/no good people.)
Those who love sin more than the truth/God are evil
Chapter 1:24/25 Those who wanted their sin more than God/truth are considered Evil.
Chapter 2 states Believers are still sinners/sinning all the time. Therefore are not to judge the Evil people, because we too are still guilty of the same sins the evil are. what seperates us is the love of sin the Evil have, verse the Love of God/truth we have. That's it.
So in formula form
Good= no one, not even the saved.
All=sinners
Sinner=Hope of redemption
Those who love sin more than God/truth= Evil
Evil people=God turned over to sin/No hope of redemption
Not all non believers are Evil.
While Paul is talking to the church at Rome, remember this message is a gospel message, meaning not everyone He is speaking to is currently a believer.
