(November 4, 2015 at 3:43 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: I just did 9 years in prison, was exonerated 9 months ago, and got out six months ago. You seem to have forgotten.I did not forget, i was making a little joke, and trying to close a door that would prevent you from trying to use 'sex in male prison' as some sort of out to my senerio. looks like I triggered some PTpD/The prison version of PTSD
Quote:I was offered sex many times, by guys I actually liked. Never once did I have a desire to actually have sex with them, and politely declined. yes that's very nice, and as you could see, (if you had not been target lock by the word 'prison') is my scenario does not include a sexual offer from a member of a sex you did not ever develop an attraction toward.
That is why i went on to the bit about Cialis. I thought you could maybe relate to that better
Quote:Why? Because despite my "sin nature" and my rejection of everything your Gawd stands for, according to Paul and Pals, I have not developed sexually to be attracted to men.Holy crap I think despite yourself you understand what I am/Paul is trying to illustrate here! We are all sin. So what. What makes sin Evil is the desire of sin, to want sin more than God. You did not break your vow because you are not evil despite your situation! an Evil man would have made an excuse and did what he wanted to do. This is the difference between sin and evil.
I similarly didn't get impulses to cheat on my Beloved, despite having been hit on by one of the super-cute nurses at one of the prisons... a chance for my first time to have sex in seven years (at that point)! But I didn't. Not because I didn't want to, or because I'd potentially get in trouble and get her fired (though the latter would have played a factor, had I been single, and I did caution her about that), but because I am in love with my fiancee and I gave her my word.
The list of justifications and the slow progression of justified sin i described in my last post is the 'turning over to sin' described in romans 1. You not having God, yet doing what is right/the right God puts into everyone places you in the same redemptive 'sinner' catagory the whole of Christianity is in. the evil of Romans one would have done whatever they wanted to do and justified it with some spin on morality to make it right with them.
Quote:This is exactly why your weird little cult is so dangerous. You teach that something which is clearly people's innate nature is irrelevant; all that matters is whether or not we want to follow your cult's teachings.That's the thing, the exact oppsite is true. In Chapter 7 Paul says even for Him it is impossible to follow all the rules/law. that only through Christ can we obtain the righteousness needed to be with God.
Quote:I reject categorically your claim that I am evil because I reject your stupid, stupid system of arbitrary morality and substitute my own. I commit very few of the sins on the Christian list, just based on who I am and how I was raised... but I combat your type of asshole everywhere I can, on behalf of those who are also good people while also having another man for their mate. They are not evil.Again, didn't say you were evil nor any gay person as automatically being evil. what makes a man evil is a strong love for his sin than for the truth of God. this is true of any sin. Not just sexual sin.
Quote:You are evil, and all who are like you. You are anathema to the human race. You want my intellectual assessment of your entire philosophy?
Reach way, waaaaayyy up into your rectum, where you get the rest of this cult mantra bullshit you're spewing at us, then keep going, and if you can get the whole arm in there, you'll find it juuuust past the last pebble of shit. If you don't find it there, keep reaching. You'll only keep your hand outside of your ass if you don't want to know The Truth™.
It's funny how the rules of the 'rant' do not apply to you when you feel youve been wronged, in one friggen instance (And wrongly assumed I might add) but me on the other hand I'm supposed to smile after 30 pages of hate and answer every single charge with temprance and kindness no matter how many times I'm asked or told the same thing.
Put down your frosted side for a moment and think about this... Would I have waisted a weeks worth of time here going back and fourth with you just to call you evil? If you could get past how smart you were long enough to put the idea down that I am not going to teach you anything here, maybe you could grasp what it is I have been talking about for the last few days is something completely different that what you think is going on. You have tried and failed for a few days to ascribe what I'm trying to communicate to some failed doctrine you already think you know. This is been proven everytime you try and do a summary. you still can't seem to seperate sin/evil and apply it correctly. this last rant proves it.
So where do we go from here? do you want me to start over with chapter one or do you want to take yoour ball and go home? or maybe can we try again before your last post?
