RE: So, once shown how, Peter was always able to walk on water ?
November 7, 2015 at 11:12 pm
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2015 at 11:14 pm by ErGingerbreadMandude.)
(November 7, 2015 at 12:45 pm)Drich Wrote:(November 7, 2015 at 12:24 pm)pool Wrote: I would be able to do that.If this were true then Biden would be the PotUS now. (You seem too easily... fooled/distracted with what I though was something very easy to understand.) ISIS would have a bomb strapped to you inside an hour sending you off to make biden president without you knowing it.
By asking you to come along with me.
Quote:The problem with that example is that you assume something that Jesus was able to teach Peter to do would suddenly be forgotten by Peter without the presence of Jesus.Again Sport, The analogy Shows that being escorted by a person of authority is not something you learn. The Escort has the power to bring somewhere you could not normally go. Without Them you would be expelled.
The Escort is Jesus and the place you'd go is walking across the water.
We know this is the case because Peter when on the water loses sight of Jesus (the escort) and consentrates on the wind and waves he begins to drown. So again if Jesus 'taught Him a trick' by calling him out on the water then he should have been able to just keep going. Because Jesus never told Him to go back. but because Jesus Escorted peter out on the water through his faith, once peter lost his faith in Jesus essentially he lost his escort in the white house.
Quote:That's like saying you got inside the white house and suddenly spots an old friend and chat up with her momentarily completely forgetting about whoever bought you inside White house only to be surrounded by Black Ops for trespassing - which you didn't.
If you were right whilst saying that it is Jesus's presence which enabled Peter to perform said miracle then he wouldn't have had trouble walking on water whilst still being in presence of Jesus by getting frightened by the wind and tides.
Not even close. when Peter lost focus of Jesus, in the analogy that would be the same as you loosing sight of your escort in the white house/You going off on your own. Your escort goes right, you go left doing your own thing. How long before they nail your face to the floor, with out your escort? That's why peter almost drown. And again as far as Peter walking on water with out Jesus do you think once you left the white house you'd ever be able to go back again the same way you went with your escort? No Jesus is the key here, not peter or some trick.
Loosing sight of Jesus =/= Loosing presence of Jesus.
I could be standing next to a bunch of hot chicks without even looking at them and still be in their presence(evident from my boner).
The point is, due to the wind and heavy rain Peter lost focus of or sight of Jesus. Peter was still in the presence of Jesus. If you were right then Peter wouldn't have had trouble while still being in the presence of Jesus. So then I would be right.
Your whole argument is based on the assertion that when a person looses sight of someone then they are no longer in the presence of said person. ^___^


