(March 4, 2009 at 2:48 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: If I were going to criticise something I'd hope to understand it first, otherwise how do I know I'm right or wrong? This is exactly the problem that scientists rightly complain about with theists, when theists assert the ignorant. Theist extremists are wrong, and so are you.
Are we venturing into No True Scotsman territory again? Who says that atheists and/or scientists don't understand theistic claims, cannot deal with them on their own ground or any other? You? Well big frakking deal.
(March 4, 2009 at 2:48 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The bible is 'true' for me, but then it's how you define truth. I'm not defining truth as empirically provable, I suspect you are.
Granted that truth is a variable commodity and as such is not really good for anything is it, that why we turn to facts and reasonable interpretation of the same. The fact is that you, for some reason, are Christian ... the question is why? And that brings me back to the questions I asked (that you so ineptly side-stepped).
(March 4, 2009 at 2:48 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: It's very easy for theists to check supposed discrepancies in the bible on bible gateway - the concordance for every verse and chapter explains everything basically. From a serious study perspective. If you want an ignorant and uninformed opinion then the place to check is the skeptics bible. It'd be a bit like me consulting some creationist twonk for my ideas.
The concordance? You mean agreement? You're insane ... the bible isn't even internally consistent never mind consistent with what we now know and for what it's worth not only is the Sceptic's annotated dictionary a very good resource (usually getting it 100% on the mark) but you've again wandered into NTS territory.
Kyu
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