(November 9, 2015 at 11:11 am)Whateverist the White Wrote:That's the thing.. without absolutes everything is a measure of compromise. right now pop culture says everything is permissble if no one gets hurt.. how long before we change the defination of 'everyone' (again?)(November 9, 2015 at 10:45 am)Drich Wrote: But, I still have absolutes..
That's nothing to be ashamed of. Got to remember that your belief system was essentially hijacked at an early age. Keep thinking and you may yet get those pesky absolutes out.
In the 1930 German pop culture changed the defination of 'everyone' to only include Ariens.
The US is not immune either. In the beginning of this country we too only included Ariens in our pop culture defination of 'everyone,' and even after the civil War we shifted our hate to exclude 'indians.'
Why? because 'we' had no true absolutes. We selfrighteously held on to the laws (and in some cases fanatically so) and ignored others.
So again, how long before the sands of time sees another shift? Or put another way How many buildings have to come down by terrorist, or cities have to be dirty bombed and rendered inhabitable/abandoned, or ecconomies crash because of multi generational wars of fighting? before "everyone" no longer includes people of a certain faith of origin?
When you base something as critical as your "moral Standard" on the uncertainty of popular culture and it's defination of morality, then you are certain to follow whatever evil culture collectivly decides is 'right' for them at that time.
Or do you think ALL Germans were Evil who wore that particular uniform? No, they thought the were doing the right thing because they followed what the people/culture told them was right.
It is only from the benfit of an absolute that one can see evil creeping up in the culture as one compromise is made after another and another. Wanting a fair wage, and a place to live is a long way from putting Jews into ovens, and it did not happen over night, but with in a decade of one compromise after another, millions of jews were being marched into those ovens. (again The same exact thing happened in this country the same exact way. Hitler even cited what we did here to the "Negro and the indian" as the model for what He did.
The only time an absolute becomes a bad thing is when you are wanting to change the absolute.
(November 9, 2015 at 10:45 am)Drich Wrote: Unchanging right and wrong. In order for most 'new age'/old ideas spirituality to have freedom one must lower the 'moral bar' so to speak, to include the 'sins' that you find ok, and still indentify the ones that do not appeal to you/society.
I/Christianity still has sin, their status has not changed. what was wrong before is still wrong today. We are simply are no longer defined as being righteous (or not) by our ablity to keep the Law.
what eves Wrote:Not sure why you think this is a selling point. I've never needed to think "that is evil always and forever" in order to feel justified in my moral reactions.When one looses sight of Evil, he is endangered of being over taken by it.
Again the first thing Hitler did was get rid of the church that identified Evil in what he was doing, and replaced it with one that was close in every respect except that it would not identify Evil as the bible identified it. then things like changing the status of a whole section of Humanity with in the population becomes easy almost second nature.
again with out an absolute/some unchanging land mark, it is easy to get lost and loose your way. 90% of the German people were this way. The just simply followed where the 'crowd' took them to a fault. Unfortunatly the other 10% knew how to blind the crowd and lead them.
(November 9, 2015 at 10:45 am)Drich Wrote: You married right?
Did you get married and are required to show love to your wife as apart of your contract?
Or
Did you get married because you loved her?
We don't toe the line for salvation. we toe the line because we want to. we want to show love to God.
Touche'.
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