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Strict gun control in france.
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RE: Strict gun control in france.
(November 17, 2015 at 11:57 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(November 17, 2015 at 6:19 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm guessing it has to do with lower per-capita murder rates, as spelt out above. You might want to read that post.

While you're at it, you might want to read, and perhaps answer if you're not too tired, my first post in this thread.

Finally, let me just say that your putative argument falls afoul of the guideline of let not the perfect be the enemy of the good. Simply because a law doesn't eliminate all acts it outlaws doesn't mean that law should be stricken.

I'd suggest that you start thinking without allowing your agenda (obvious as it is) to be your mental filter (again, obvious).

It's amazing how someone can say something like this after a terrible mass shooting in a country with strict gun control. Every time there is a mass shooting in the US people say how we need to ban guns to prevent tragedies like this is the future. Every time. The overall murder rate is never brought up. And do you know why that is? Well maybe because it has little affect on the overall murder rate. It certainly didn't have any affect in England when gun laws were enacted in 1964 and the crime rate when up  or stayed relatively similar throughout the next decade.

People always make the case 'well look at the low crime rate in Europe' by which of course they mean only western Europe, all of which certainly has low violence but all of which doesn't even have strict gun control. Meanwhile the crime rate in Eastern Europe is sky high with similar gun control laws. On top of that western Europe has always had a lower crime rate than the US, even when their gun laws were similar. These are the facts that most people on both sides of this debate are terribly ignorant of and incidentally the more important and interesting conversation.

I'm going to agree with you even if we did ban gun's or have a heavy restriction on them people would start killing each other 
with knives and if someone is crazy enough a sword. The issue isn't with restriction there is more to it than that because well theology 
plays a role in violence and other factors as well.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today. 


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Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 16, 2015 at 9:56 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Faith No More - November 16, 2015 at 10:07 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 16, 2015 at 10:35 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Homeless Nutter - November 16, 2015 at 10:58 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Faith No More - November 16, 2015 at 11:18 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 1:49 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 5:12 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 6:19 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 11:57 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by dyresand - November 17, 2015 at 12:07 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 12:09 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by dyresand - November 17, 2015 at 12:12 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 2:55 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - December 3, 2015 at 6:03 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - December 3, 2015 at 6:49 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - December 3, 2015 at 8:36 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - December 4, 2015 at 1:54 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Homeless Nutter - December 4, 2015 at 8:16 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 5:16 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 6:29 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Iroscato - November 16, 2015 at 10:07 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 16, 2015 at 10:34 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Reforged - November 17, 2015 at 2:01 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Faith No More - November 16, 2015 at 10:09 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Anomalocaris - November 16, 2015 at 10:09 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 16, 2015 at 10:37 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by dyresand - November 17, 2015 at 11:22 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 12:23 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2015 at 10:12 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Minimalist - November 16, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Reforged - November 17, 2015 at 2:05 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Darkstar - November 17, 2015 at 2:39 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 5:11 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Edwardo Piet - November 17, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 5:23 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 17, 2015 at 5:35 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 5:59 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 6:31 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 6:41 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Dystopia - November 17, 2015 at 9:16 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 9:24 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Dystopia - November 17, 2015 at 9:25 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 17, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 9:42 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by dyresand - November 17, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 11:34 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Whateverist - November 17, 2015 at 11:54 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by dyresand - November 17, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 12:18 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by dyresand - November 17, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 12:35 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 12:29 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Divinity - November 17, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 12:48 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 12:57 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 2:08 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 2:33 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 2:21 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 2:36 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 3:05 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Valkyrie - November 17, 2015 at 3:16 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 3:17 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 3:45 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Kingpin - November 17, 2015 at 3:57 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 4:07 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 4:22 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 19, 2015 at 8:32 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 19, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 20, 2015 at 5:15 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 20, 2015 at 5:42 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2015 at 9:09 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 20, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2015 at 10:34 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 20, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2015 at 11:42 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 20, 2015 at 12:01 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 20, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2015 at 12:08 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 20, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2015 at 12:37 pm

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