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Strict gun control in france.
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RE: Strict gun control in france.
(November 17, 2015 at 2:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote: People such as yourself are contributors, yes, because we need people such as yourself to maintain the fiction that we are actually doing something, or even interested in doing something, that might solve the problem we have.  We need people such as yourself to dismiss, without actually addressing, the comments of people who actually -do- want to do something, and demand that the "something" we do actually work.  We need people like you, to show other people like you, that it's okay to base ones vote and affiliation on ignorance and tagline.

What does that even mean?


(November 17, 2015 at 2:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote:  We need people like you, to excuse our politicians for their ineffectivenesss, and allow them to reduce both their own platform and the platform of their opposition to a single line, so as to shed the responsibility they have of providing actual governance.  

Strawman.

Who has been excusing your politicians for being ineffective? Did I say that?



(November 17, 2015 at 2:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You, are an unintentional shill.  I'm sorry, we're assholes like that, and that's not your fault.

And you are deluded if you think gun ownership will stop the removal of your civil liberties. I noticed for example that you did not counter my argument in my previous post that they haven't yet stopped the NSA from spying on you or the removal of your rights. So at what point is gun ownership going to be useful in stopping a fascist government from rising up? It's called the thin end of a wedge for a reason you know.

And are you even contemplating that there could be something more important than gun ownership in achieving this? Like for example education.

What would you prefer? An uneducated gun toting population that believes everything its leaders tell it? Or an educated population with strict gun controls? This is not a false dichotomy because if you choose the latter than you admit that education is more important than gun ownership. If your population is educated and politically aware then you don't need guns because politicians can't get away with their lies and selling you out.


(November 17, 2015 at 2:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Meanwhile, none of my guns, not a one...and there are many, have ever shot anyone -except myself-...and they never will.  So tell me again how I'm contributing?

Because by the mere fact of owning a gun you are creating yet one more opportunity for it to be stolen and for it to fall into the hands of a criminal. No matter how careful you are, your house can still be broken into.

Also if law abiding citizens own guns then criminals need to carry them. If law abiding citizens did not routinely own guns then criminals would not need to use them. You're probably thinking that they would anyway but they carry a cost. If the criminal gets caught with it then they are more likely to be sent to jail for a long time. If the criminal needs to use one then it's more likely to result in murder which again increases the chances of being caught and sent to jail.
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Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 16, 2015 at 9:56 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Faith No More - November 16, 2015 at 10:07 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 16, 2015 at 10:35 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Homeless Nutter - November 16, 2015 at 10:58 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Faith No More - November 16, 2015 at 11:18 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 1:49 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 5:12 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 6:19 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 11:57 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by dyresand - November 17, 2015 at 12:07 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 12:09 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by dyresand - November 17, 2015 at 12:12 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 2:55 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - December 3, 2015 at 6:03 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - December 3, 2015 at 6:49 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - December 3, 2015 at 8:36 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - December 4, 2015 at 1:54 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Homeless Nutter - December 4, 2015 at 8:16 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 5:16 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 6:29 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Iroscato - November 16, 2015 at 10:07 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 16, 2015 at 10:34 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Reforged - November 17, 2015 at 2:01 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Faith No More - November 16, 2015 at 10:09 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Anomalocaris - November 16, 2015 at 10:09 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 16, 2015 at 10:37 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by dyresand - November 17, 2015 at 11:22 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 12:23 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 16, 2015 at 10:12 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Minimalist - November 16, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Reforged - November 17, 2015 at 2:05 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Darkstar - November 17, 2015 at 2:39 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 5:11 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Edwardo Piet - November 17, 2015 at 12:42 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 5:23 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 17, 2015 at 5:35 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 5:59 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 6:31 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 6:41 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Dystopia - November 17, 2015 at 9:16 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 9:24 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Dystopia - November 17, 2015 at 9:25 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 17, 2015 at 9:29 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 9:42 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by dyresand - November 17, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 11:34 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Whateverist - November 17, 2015 at 11:54 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by dyresand - November 17, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 12:18 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by dyresand - November 17, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 12:21 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 12:35 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 12:36 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 12:53 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 12:29 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Divinity - November 17, 2015 at 12:43 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 12:48 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 12:57 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by CapnAwesome - November 17, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 2:08 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 2:33 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 2:21 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 2:36 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 3:05 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 3:14 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Thumpalumpacus - November 17, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Valkyrie - November 17, 2015 at 3:16 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 3:17 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 3:45 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 17, 2015 at 4:13 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by Kingpin - November 17, 2015 at 3:57 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 4:07 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2015 at 4:22 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 19, 2015 at 8:32 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 19, 2015 at 11:40 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 20, 2015 at 5:15 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 20, 2015 at 5:42 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2015 at 9:09 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 20, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2015 at 10:34 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 20, 2015 at 11:28 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2015 at 11:42 am
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 20, 2015 at 12:01 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 20, 2015 at 12:11 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2015 at 12:08 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by I_am_not_mafia - November 20, 2015 at 12:14 pm
RE: Strict gun control in france. - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2015 at 12:37 pm

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