Biblical Morality

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I think there would be quite a few scientists who would take umbrage at your assertion that they know diddly squat.

Scientists as scientists know diddly squat about religion - was what I was saying. I would be surprised to hear that scientists were in fact theologians.

I'm sure you do but, from where I'm sitting, only from a certain POV; it requires persons with a more objective POV and less of an agenda to look at the bigger picture ... some scientists (like Dawkins) are exceptionally good at demonstrating exactly what religious beliefs are IMO.

That's right. I'm sure scientists are overjoyed when people with a wider POV, i.e. religious people, make authoritative statements about science.

Dawkins is stunningly ignorant about religion, and prides himself in telling people exactly what it's all about.

It's probably worth pointing out that it wasn't AT you (did I say you're being "frakking" something? No I didn't) and also that I didn't actually swear (and yes I know exactly what I said that's why I am fairly confident that I didn't swear).

Actually, although we can never be so, it was more like the sort of thing I would say to a friend you know, they say something which stretches your incredulity and you say, "What? You're insane!" it's little more than ribbing, and exclamatory remark, that's all. Come on, please tell me you're not so prudish as to not do similar things with your friends?

My hand was forced Kyu.

It was made very clear to me that responding to people in the manner that I'm used to, as we may normally converse with our peers, was VERY unacceptable on this forum.

No hard feelings at all.

truth implies certainty and science can NEVER be certain.

Secondly science is the only philosophy that actually works ... nothing else has EVER explained anything in the real world (maths is an exception but maths still requires testing in the real world).

If nothing can ever be held to be absolute than nothing can ever be utterly true IOW we can only approach certainty but can never reach it.

Truth varies.

Two contradictory statements there.

I would say you're confused about what truth is. You seem to be saying that 'truth' is only knowable through science, even though science based on facts is movable.

I think it revealing that you refer to science as philosophy. This is the problem.. science has nothing to do with philosophy.

Many anti-theists slate religion for having unmovable truths. Yet here you are complaining that religious truth is variable.

Those things which Christians feel can be claimed as truth are written in the bible.

Reality, facts, the understanding of the physical universe are in the realm of science. Theological truth and scientific fact never address the same issue.

OK, then can you explain the conflicting genealogies of Jesus Christ? Can you also enlighten me concerning the manner in which Judas Iscariot died?

There are many theories about the genealogy. Legal vs biological; male vs female; Jewish saviour vs saviour of mankind. Take your pick.

Judas hung himself and his bowels fell out of his body being ripped open by the cord. The Chief Priests then bought a field in his name. Two accounts saying the same thing.

P.S. Again my apologies for editing your post, I got confused by my modding powers ... I've recovered it all but not in exactly the same format.

You edited my post? Which one?