RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
November 19, 2015 at 5:50 pm
(This post was last modified: November 19, 2015 at 5:53 pm by Neo-Scholastic.)
(November 19, 2015 at 5:21 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(November 19, 2015 at 4:39 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Since you fail to provide any examples I will repeat my challenge:
All the conclusions of the Five Ways follow from outdated and obsolete observations of reality and none of them have been contradicted by an observed phenomena except what we have seen from testing quantum mechanics. If you think otherwise I challenge you to name a single phenomenon that definitively rules out the possibility of any of the following: Unmoved Mover, First Cause, Necessary Being, or Guiding Intelligence.
FIFY
You do not get to pretend that this point wasn't addressed. Attempting to do so in a thread complaining of the intellectual bankruptcy of your interlocutors is ironic at best. If you have to defend your faith with dishonest tactics, perhaps your faith is not worth defending -- or holding, for that matter.
You keep forgetting how simply referencing QM in a vague and general way can justify everything from precognition to Idealism. I'm asking for one specific QM experiment that makes impossible an umoved mover/first cause/necessary being/guiding intelligence.
And while you're at it, maybe you can name an outdated observation about reality in the Five Ways other than those examples used for illustration.