(November 19, 2015 at 4:43 pm)alpha male Wrote:(November 19, 2015 at 4:37 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Your standard for determining whether Rob exists is to demand that he come knock on your door? Did you demand that Gaud knock on your door before believing that he exists? If not, why would you demand that from Rob?I was flexible. I'm willing to accept that words imply a writer, as they don't just form on their own. But, by that standard, creation implies a creator.
Even if that were true, where's the evidence that reality is a "creation"? If something is clearly identifiable as "created," then sure, I suppose you'd have to assume a creator is responsible, but on what grounds do you claim that reality is a creation? Theists are eager to refer to reality as "creation" because that language does indeed imply a creator, but nobody ever adequately explains what makes them so sure that reality was created in the first place (aside from the Wholly Babble, of course).
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
