Biblical Morality

[Kyuuketsuki]

Scientists as scientists know diddly squat about religion - was what I was saying. I would be surprised to hear that scientists were in fact theologians.

That has to rank as one of the most spectacularly stupid things I've ever heard anyone say ... not only does the Catholic Church do an awful lot of science (their speciality is cosmology but I doubt it stops there) but have you never heard of Professor Sir John Polkinghorne?

Dawkins is stunningly ignorant about religion, and prides himself in telling people exactly what it's all about.

Apparently you missed the fact that he wrote a book called, "The God Delusion" hmmm? Like it love it, agree or disagree, hate it or whatever there can be no denying he knows an awful lot about religion.

It was made very clear to me that responding to people in the manner that I'm used to, as we may normally converse with our peers, was VERY unacceptable on this forum.

I know nothing of this.

No hard feelings at all.

No feelings one way or the other.

I would say you're confused about what truth is. You seem to be saying that 'truth' is only knowable through science, even though science based on facts is movable.

Nope, I'm saying truth has nothing to do with science and, math excepted, it varies.

I think it revealing that you refer to science as philosophy. This is the problem.. science has nothing to do with philosophy.

Wrong philosophy means "to seek knowledge" and, to date, the only methodology that has ever explained anything in any verifiable form is science... science is actually the only real philosophy.

Many anti-theists slate religion for having unmovable truths. Yet here you are complaining that religious truth is variable.

Such as?

Those things which Christians feel can be claimed as truth are written in the bible.

Meaningless truths sure.

Reality, facts, the understanding of the physical universe are in the realm of science. Theological truth and scientific fact never address the same issue.

Actually both science and religion attempt to answer the same questions ... the difference is that religion is nearly always wrong.

There are many theories about the genealogy. Legal vs biological; male vs female; Jewish saviour vs saviour of mankind. Take your pick.

Answer the question!

Judas hung himself and his bowels fell out of his body being ripped open by the cord. The Chief Priests then bought a field in his name. Two accounts saying the same thing.

Explain the difference!

Kyu