(November 23, 2015 at 11:28 am)Minimalist Wrote:So let me see if I can sum up your position Minnie, "their is no and by no I mean NO evidence of 1st century persecution of Christians, Except from a Renown Roman senator/Historian from the first century?" Does that sum up your spew so far?Quote:From a declare from Nero Himself citing Christians for the burning of Rome,
Drippy you dumb fuck, Tertullian lived 150 years after Nero. There is no (and by no I mean NO ) evidence of xtian persecutions in Rome in the first century. In fact there is no indication that the Romans even noticed xtians in Rome in the first century and certainly there were no xtian catacombs for this alleged multitude. All there is is the Tacitus passage which is likely a much later interpolation.
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Quote:Yet no human effort, no princely largess nor offerings to the gods could make that infamous rumor disappear that Nero had somehow ordered the fire. Therefore, in order to abolish that rumor, Nero falsely accused and executed with the most exquisite punishments those people called Christians, who were infamous for their abominations. The originator of the name, Christ, was executed as a criminal by the procurator Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius; and though repressed, this destructive superstition erupted again, not only through Judea, which was the origin of this evil, but also through the city of Rome, to which all that is horrible and shameful floods together and is celebrated. Therefore, first those were seized who admitted their faith, and then, using the information they provided, a vast multitude were convicted, not so much for the crime of burning the city, but for hatred of the human race. And perishing they were additionally made into sports: they were killed by dogs by having the hides of beasts attached to them, or they were nailed to crosses or set aflame, and, when the daylight passed away, they were used as nighttime lamps. Nero gave his own gardens for this spectacle and performed a Circus game, in the habit of a charioteer mixing with the plebs or driving about the race-course. Even though they were clearly guilty and merited being made the most recent example of the consequences of crime, people began to pity these sufferers, because they were consumed not for the public good but on account of the fierceness of one man.http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text...apter%3D44
Oh, and again pliny the younger's letter asking for advice on the treatment of Christian priosioners (what to do with them when found guilty of not worshiping Roman gods/They were given three chances to turn from God and embrace roman gods or they were executed)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pliny_the_...Christians
But I'm sure you will dismiss this for some reason as well, along with all other references mentioned in the first century of any persecution at all that was actually recorded in the time frame stoo-ped people want to claim did not happen.
Let me guess at another historical bend from reality you may have Minnie; Did Hitler's Germany persecute the Jews?
Quote:Read Candida Moss' "The Myth of Persecution" if you could bring yourself to pull your head out of your ass long enough to learn something aside from jesus freak propaganda... but we all know that you are incapable so just go fuck yourself and your fucking god.The thing is me and 'My God' are not the types who ignore evidence for faith based assertions.
Let me ask you this. If you have to lie about history, change who God is to hate Him and His followers, what does that actually say about your reasoning for your hate?