RE: Christian argued that everything must have a creator
December 1, 2015 at 4:37 am
(This post was last modified: December 1, 2015 at 4:46 am by robvalue.)
So really, the arguments for why I should care (as in alter my life in any significant way) about whether there is a "God" amount to apparent threats it issues for non conformity.
In other words, it's a mugging. No one has done any better than that. (I respect you trying though Quantum! Ironic an atheist steps to the plate rather than a theist ) The only other "argument" I've heard is that I should be thankful. Sure, thanks god. Terrific. Except this world is a shitstorm, so not so much.
Of course, from a scientific point of view, I'd be very interested in any new discoveries, including "gods". But that's very different from changing the way I live.
Some insane being pointing a "gonna hurt real bad later" gun at me while handing out orders is not someone I'm going to listen to. So shoot me. If he's that powerful, he can do what the hell he likes anyway. There's no reason to think it will stick to its word, and I'm not putting his wishes above the wellbeing of myself or other life on this planet. Just maybe, it's a test to see if I'll do a bunch of immoral and stupid shit if threatened. So I win?
If he's just "telling" me to do things I do anyway because I think they are good things to do, then there's no problem, and no need for him at all.
In other words, it's a mugging. No one has done any better than that. (I respect you trying though Quantum! Ironic an atheist steps to the plate rather than a theist ) The only other "argument" I've heard is that I should be thankful. Sure, thanks god. Terrific. Except this world is a shitstorm, so not so much.
Of course, from a scientific point of view, I'd be very interested in any new discoveries, including "gods". But that's very different from changing the way I live.
Some insane being pointing a "gonna hurt real bad later" gun at me while handing out orders is not someone I'm going to listen to. So shoot me. If he's that powerful, he can do what the hell he likes anyway. There's no reason to think it will stick to its word, and I'm not putting his wishes above the wellbeing of myself or other life on this planet. Just maybe, it's a test to see if I'll do a bunch of immoral and stupid shit if threatened. So I win?
If he's just "telling" me to do things I do anyway because I think they are good things to do, then there's no problem, and no need for him at all.
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