Where do you stand on the existence of God?

[Redbeard The Pink]

CL, evidence can be shown by definition. If you can't show it to someone else, it really doesn't count as meaningful evidence.

Also, you and I have conversed before about the inescapable fact that Gaud' s omniscience and omnipotence would combine to rule out both personal responsibility and free will. Good to see that sunk in so well

If you witnessed Johnny kill Billy, would YOU know that Johnny killed Billy? Unless some other form of evidence comes in, you can't prove to other people that Johnny is guilty unless they chose to take your word for it. But you personally would still have enough information to know he did, for yourself.

We did have that conversation, but that doesn't mean I agreed with you.

That would depend entirely on what I witnessed, but even if I did undoubtedly see Johnny murder Billy, Johnny still shouldn't be convicted on the evidence of my testimony because personal testimony is a terrible standard of evidence.

There's also the problem of how sure I can be of what I saw. Human perception is woefully incomplete, and human memory is worse. Even if I'm REALLY sure I saw Johnny kill Billy, I could still be wrong about what I think I saw. Without further corroborating evidence (a body, ballistics reports, gunshot residue, etc.), I couldn't accurately claim to KNOW that Johnny killed Billy; I could only claim to believe he did because that's what I saw.

You can disagree about the free will thing, but to do so you have to be either ignorant or dishonest. The lack of free will and personal responsibility is a logical and inevitable circumstance of an omniscient and omnipotent god. It is paradoxical, logically inconsistent, and idiotic to simultaneously hold the belief that free will exists and that the Universe was created by an omnipotent, omniscient god.