(December 3, 2015 at 8:31 pm)marko Wrote:(December 2, 2015 at 11:53 pm)marko Wrote: Lets hope you dug a little deeper than Santa and the tooth fairy in determining if God exists, Most people believe it carrys a little more weight. As I said, I am looking for what brings one to Athiesm. I do not believe Atheists are doomed, or damned, or going to hell. I do not believe God cares, anymore than a parent would doom their child for hating them. As for evidence for God, there is good and bad in the world. It is a cause of our free will. You can't have good without bad. We all have choices, challenges, hopes and regrets. And none of it would work if we knew Dad was home. You don't have the kegger at home if mom and dad are around. The fact that there is no evidence is how its supposed to seem, THATS THE POINT.
Just got back online. I read the posts, and see I made a mistake. I do not believe athiests hate God. I should have said a parent would not doom their child if they did not believe in them. Did not want the post to go in that direction. As I said, I am not an atheist basher, but i'm sure you guys get a lot of it, so I understand the defensiveness. I did say I believe you reject God, and I was corrected as to say ''The concept of God'', also, some say they were born atheists, which is a new thought for me. Thats why I started this post, the 3 athiests I talk to seem to be pissed off at God, and I knew there was something more. I still believe God does not care if you believe in him or not. And the lack of evidence is so we can determine our lives in a way that would not be possible otherwise. Once again, I did not say anything about evolution, holy books, or whatever else most of you guys are used to hearing.
I applaud you making corrections in your perceptions. That is more than most theists that come here seem to be capable of. Even after being corrected many times, still claim we "hate god".
So, the the texts that depict the Christian god character and the Muslim god character make it clear that disbelief will lead to some sort of punishment by said gods. So, it would seem you do not believe in either of those gods. Do you mind informing us which god you do believe exists?
And more importantly, why are you convinced that this god exists? And why should we be convinced?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
