(December 4, 2015 at 9:56 pm)Natachan Wrote: Just because you have some issues believing that evolution can not be responsible for new forms or for complexity does not make it so. Just because you are in awe of the physical laws of the universe does not mean a god or an intelligent agent had some part in it. I too have studied physics and chemistry, and I am satisfied enough that there should be some naturalistic explanation. Why not? Personal incredulity is not sufficient reason to assign agency to the creation of the universe.
Moreover, as I have stated before, YOU HAVE NOT DEFINED GOD. You need to clearly define this entity and then provide positive evidence for this entity. Incredulity and gaps in our current knowledge are not enough.
Well I don't think that it is an argument form ignorance or a God of the gaps way of thinking. I think there is positive evidence for design, not just the absence of evidence for a naturalistic explanation. If you saw a stone with carvings on it and someone offered that the carvings were produced by intelligence, it is illogical to tell them "you're wrong, we just have to figure out how they got there by natural means." I think intelligent design is evident in the many examples of complex molecular interactions in the cell. We have many complex structures that we cannot live without. They had to appear in fully functional form at one time in order to be selected for, yet mutation is incapable of producing such rapid changes. In other words, we cannot trace our evolution backwards because we run into problems when we have incomplete molecular structures that would keep the population from surviving and reproducing.
I would definitely agree that the universe is an inhospitable place in general. That is one of the reasons that our planet is so unique. This is just a thought, but maybe the universe was created this way so that we would realize how uncommon our planet is.
As for defining God, I told you right off the bat that I just think evidence points to an intelligent mind. I said that we have no way of knowing if this is "God". I happen to believe that this intelligence cause is God, so I guess I would define it as the force of intelligence that is not governed by the laws of our universe that caused our universe to come into existence.
