(December 4, 2015 at 11:13 pm)Natachan Wrote: No, I meant this solar system. Would not be surprised. I find the prospect of microscopic life in the clouds of Venus intriguing for example, and it isn't off the table.Ok, well I highly doubt we find life in this solar system. Also, you said multiple times that I am arguing from ignorance. Then you say that you are content accepting the proposed models for abiogenesis when all of them that I am aware of have serious problems. If you know of a model that actually looks like it may work, then please share it with me.
I have no knowledge of biology, and no interest. I have heard of organic molecules being formed from inorganic. I have heard mechanisms for abiogenesis, and that is enough to counter the "only through intelligent agency" claim. If all the pieces aren't in a line yet so what? Enough are still in place to make the intervention of an intelligent agent unnecessary.
Also don't you think that if we see information and highly specific forces at work in the universe that the default position should be that it was designed that way. I think this is where we are disagreeing, but I think we should be able to get to the same conclusion if we put presuppositions aside.
