So your an Athiest

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In that analogy, the carvings are the product of an intelligent creature, in this case, a higher primate, a multi cellular organism, a product of nature. 


 


The only reasonable conclusion is that it's all the work of a giant wizard.


The cosmos does indeed provide an object lesson in just how amazingly unlikely my own existence is, however when you put forward the idea that it was all done on purpose, the wonder totally vanishes. I'm left to question why an intelligent creator would fill the universe with water just so he could watch the thirsty not drink it.




The following is a c/p of a post I made a while ago, the questions were never addressed so I feel I may ask them again:

Concerning the Intelligent Designer: What does "planning" entail when making a cosmos? Did the designer draw up a blueprint? Or did the designer just do it all in their head? If this being is both powerful enough and intelligent enough to create the universe, did it really need to plan anything? If it's omniscient, shouldn't it already know what to do? Assuming it's a God did it, would it not have done everything instantly? What was the designer doing with itself before the space time continuum? If it was indeed planning the universe prior to the creation, how did it go about doing that without time or cause and effect? How do you proceed through the cosmos-making process (or literally any process) before cause and effect? It doesn't make sense, God would need to create time before proceeding with temporal activities. Wouldn't God have done everything right at the very first instant of time? Wouldn't that be the only TIME God could do it? At the first instant of time? Wouldn't the universe have begun at the same moment as God? Otherwise, how did God exist before it had made existence?

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Ok, lets see if I can get to all the points. You say that the multicellular organism that made the carving is a product of nature. That is just an assertion, and I think the theory of evolution has a lot of issues and I think that life was created by intelligence directly (I'm not saying it was 6000 years ago in a garden, I just think that is what biological evidence shows).

Are you saying cellular life doesn't occur within nature?

Here is nature:



I'm sure you have no issue seeing the cellular life, unnatural as it is.

You calling the intelligent force a giant wizard is an oversimplification.

I'll have you know my thesis, 'Bow before the Great Giant Wizard of Sa'aloth, holder of the Seven Keys and Lord of the Time Palace' earned me a theoretical degree in quantum physics, thank you very much.

The argument is that when we see complex information systems, the default conclusion should be that intelligence played a role in its origin.

Those systems of information are created by intelligent humans, so yes, you are correct.

I'm not sure if you're wondering why people are suffering from thirst? Environments aren't perfect, but evidence shows that dry areas were typically more lush in the past. The fossil record even shows trees and other plant life in Antarctica. The idea that things were better in the past and are slowly degrading is more consistent with the idea of intelligent design than it is with the theory of evolution.

A smarter man might have noticed that you completely avoided addressing my point and went off on an irrelevant tangent. Lucky for you I'm not that smart, eh?

Your last paragraph asks a lot of good questions. I don't know the answer to most of those question, and I don't know how I could find out. The time issue is interesting, but not new. It could be that time is simply not required to do things as we think it does. Or perhaps the intelligent force resides in a place that operates under different conditions.

Or maybe it was the lizard people.