(December 5, 2015 at 12:56 am)AAA Wrote:(December 5, 2015 at 12:08 am)Mr.wizard Wrote: Nothing would be the absence of matter, energy, or time. But I'm not the one who believes that nothing has creative properties. It is irrational to think that nothing can produce everything. It seems like a reasonable assumption that the universe required some form of energy to be formed. I think I can safely say that nothing does not have that capability.
Your argument is one big argument from ignorance. You don't see how evolution and abiogenesis can work without a designer, therefore they are flawed. You assert this state of nothingness that you can't possibly know even exists, or that the universe even existed in that state.
Also, even if evolution and abiogenesis where proven false it wouldn't make your designer any more probable.
It is not an argument from ignorance. I understand the theory of evolution well, and it has a lot of problems. I'm not the only one who sees these problems either. You seem to think that going along with the theory automatically makes you smarter. Also, when I first talked about nothing bringing everything into existence, I was talking about what you likely believe if you deny an intelligent creator. I do not believe there was ever nothing.
And if evolution and abiogenesis were proven false, I think it would definitely support the idea that we were designed. It would make design a much more plausible explanation than unknown natural mechanism.
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Well this is your problem your talking about what I believe when you don't know what I believe.
Wow, You have made a lot assumptions about what people believe based off of what they don't believe. Again Even if evolution and Abiogenesis where proven false it doesn't prove a creator.
Also, saying something can't be a certain way because you cant understand it, is by definition the argument from ignorance.