(December 5, 2015 at 12:38 am)AAA Wrote: Well it isn't easy to try to have a discussion on what there was before the universe that we can observe. You seem to think that an intelligent designer is illogical. I have a hypothetical scenario: if we one day created a computer simulation program that had conscious beings, and these beings started to realize that the space that they live in only works if the parameters to make the computer program work at very specific values. They then learn of their own complexity and begin to examine the digital code that makes up themselves. Is it irrational for them to conclude that they are living in a space that was designed?
This scenario is not so hypothetical. It is exactly the situation we are in.
Yes it is, it's very, very hypothetical - just because we happen to exist in a Goldilocks case of coincidental situations which are favorable to life does not in any way imply design. We are centered where we are around 1 of probably trillions or more stars in this universe, therefore the law of averages is not only favorable for relatively small number of variables to occur all at once - it mandates that this happens! If such conditions never developed here, then we would not be having this conversation, but interesting life (whether or not it speaks or writes) would certainly be on some other planet. Give any planet with such conditions enough time, and high intelligence will develop eventually.
Here's an example of how the statistics play out, which you can do yourself with the help of only 1,024 friends. I'm sure you've been in bigger crowds than this, even if you didn't know anybody, and if that many or more all flip a coin 10 times, it's guaranteed you will see somebody win that many consecutive times!
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