(December 5, 2015 at 1:43 pm)AAA Wrote:(December 5, 2015 at 1:22 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I have a mediocre knowledge of Biology. Still vastly more than you AAA. Intelligent design huh? The cosmo constant as perfectly designed for life. Ass backward idiocy. Its like seeing a hole in the ground and when rain falls, water filling it, you conclude that the whole was perfectly designed to form a puddle.
You sir, are doing it wrong.
Great! someone who can understand the biology then. First off I doubt you know more about it than me, I am at the top of my class at my university with a bio major, and I plan to get my PhD and go into research. If you understand the biology of it then let me ask you a question. How did the first proteins necessary for DNA replication evolve if you cannot reproduce (and thus change across generations) without them already being functional? The simplest question I have. If you can't answer it, then what makes you think it happened?
As for your analogy, it falls short because life is not as malleable as water in a hole. Life could not form under any condition, only specific ones. Water can fill any puddle, not just specific ones.
(December 5, 2015 at 1:23 pm)Quantum Wrote: If you really want to fully understand it yourself on a technical level, you need to get a PhD in speciation or a related topic. If you can't do that (and it would be completely understandable if you can't) you need to trust the experts to a certain degree. But you need to at least read what the best of them have to say on the matter.
I will be getting my PhD in biology, and I will be going into a career in research.
If you're actually serious about learning about the latest research in abiogenesis chemistry, NASA/JPL have been working on that for years (the implications for space-probe construction and project goal orientation should be obvious), and they maintain excellent articles online about the subject. They've come up with some surprising answers, even if the puzzle isn't solved just yet:
https://www.astrobiology.nasa.gov/articl...e-of-life/
Also, the National Institutes of Health maintains a database of peer-reviewed literature on almost any subject you can imagine, including that one, at PubMed:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24621309
Those are just a couple of articles I grabbed in haste; feel free to read on your own to answer the questions you're slinging at us. Suffice it to say, no one at NASA or the NIH are looking at "Intelligent Design" for their answers-- not even the roughly 1/2 of researchers who are Christians.
You need to check your prejudices.
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