RE: So your an Athiest
December 5, 2015 at 3:30 pm
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2015 at 3:32 pm by God of Mr. Hanky.)
(December 5, 2015 at 2:34 pm)AAA Wrote:(December 5, 2015 at 2:32 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: People have done what calculations? You would cite if you knew.
Chances are that somebody may have done calculations and found that life as we know it, origin redux is unlikely, but that does not make our own existence particularly remarkable. Even if so, and this is doubtful because such an endeavor to prognosticate would be taken up by a narrow-minded Christian who's goal is not to discover anything but to disprove the work of others, this would not eliminate the possibility of life evolving elsewhere in a different form. Our universe is actually finite, but just how finite it is has been debated, and those like you with an agenda to prove would surely low-ball that figure.
As for life itself, the definition of this has broadened greatly over the past four decades, what with oceanographic research revealing life forms thriving, under conditions where it was previously believed that no life possibly could.
http://www.indiana.edu/~g105lab/images/g...nities.htm
No, Virginia, life does not depend on conditions to fall into place for it. Life digs its cleats into any toehold which it can hang onto, and then it makes its own ecosystem of any resources which it can draw energy from. It works this way because it's life which is alive, not its physical conditions and not its chemical elements. There's no evidence for your god in any of this.
Yes life exists in places you would not expect to find it. But extremophiles are more complex than normal bacteria, so even if you believed in evolution these would certainly not have been able to be the first that evolved. I think the most broad definition of life that could be given is something capable of taking molecules from the environment and use them to produce accurate copies of itself. I don't think I'm being narrow minded, and I want to discover new things. Just because I'm a Christian doesn't mean I won't be a good researcher. Look at virtually every researcher before the 1800s.
Whether or not that uncited claim is true or not is not above debate, but the possibilities they imply for life under a broader range of conditions remain strong.
That you call them "extremophiles" is rather interesting, considering how life, when it first began 4 billion years ago, did so under similar conditions - the atmosphere and ocean was choked with volcanic activity and no oxygen. It was hardly extreme to these life forms, which made do with what it had available. That's what life does.
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