(December 5, 2015 at 5:04 pm)AAA Wrote: And Isaac Newton (probably the smartest man who ever lived) was actually not even remotely atheistic. He wrote more on Christian theology than he did science. He wrote on the prophecies of Daniel, and he actually calculated the battle of Armageddon to occur somewhere around 2060. You can't say the scientists were secretly atheists when they identified as Christians. Maybe you wish they were atheists, but that doesn't make it so.
We know about Isaac Newton. There are many quite-brilliant scientists today who are Christians, as well. All he was saying is that your quip about all scientists before __(year)__ were Believers is not necessarily true, as it was death to question the church. See for instance the story of Giordano Bruno (who was also a Christian).
Saying there were no atheists then is a bit like Mahmoud Amadinejad (sp?), the President of Iran, confidently declaring before the United Nations that they have no homosexuals in Iran.
When they're too afraid to show their faces on pain of death, it doesn't mean they aren't there!
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
