(December 5, 2015 at 5:34 pm)AAA Wrote:(December 5, 2015 at 5:22 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I wouldn't worry, your credibility hasn't been affected one bit.
Incidentally, going back to the Sir Isaac Newton thing. I already said that the beliefs of scientists - or indeed anyone, especially those cited as an authority - don't hold a candle to the work that they do. Interestingly, you agreed. Now please tell the class for what is the great man best known to history - his contributions to physics, theology or alchemy?
Physics clearly. I'm just saying he was a Christian an he could still do science. I doubt there is a correlation between religious beliefs and scientific productivity.
That depends on what you mean by "religious beliefs". If your religious beliefs prevent you from doing impartial science, as in the Discovery Institute and Answers In Genesis crew, then you're not a scientist at all. But yes, as I said, many scientists are also Christians, including my Beloved.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
