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Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans
Chapter 11 1-12
Paul spent a lot of time (several Chapters) defending the Jews who do not believe and explaining why some are lost. Here he explains those in whom God will save and yet remain Jewish. Again proof that it is not a direct result of what we do or our self appointed titles that saves us but it is the Judgement of Christ based on what is in our hearts. Here In these verses Paul uses parallels from the OT to show that now as in the time of Elisha that certain Jews have turned on God and it may seem like no one follows God, but God keep a 'remnant.' of the people alive and well.

verses 13-24 Answer a question that was asked a while back by one of you "How can gentiles be saved if the covenants were with Israel?

Paul describes the covenant as a Olive tree and a system of roots. The covenant with Israel is a 'good olive tree' while the gentiles are a wild olive tree. The difference between good and wild is not a moral distinction but one pertaining viability/desirability of it's 'fruit.' Fruit being following God.

Paul here is describing the process of "grafting." In farming to 'Graft' a branch means to cut a branch off of one tree and cut one of the host tree's original branches off and tie the 'wild' branch in place of the original branch. This will allow a tree with a well established root system to nourish a branch that may produce a certain type or more fruit than the tree's original branch. given time the host tree will assimilate the new branch as if it were one of it's own. for example in Fl, they sell citrus trees that yield navel oranges, lemons, pink grape fruit, and tangerines. all from one tree.

Towards the end of this bank of scripture Paul warns the 'grafted branches/gentiles' That if God did not spare the original branches for not bearing fruit, then he would not spare the grafted on branches either.

25-32 Paul ties his analogy up explaining that the Jews were the original branches and the gentiles the wild grafted branches, and that given time God would eventually tie the original branches back onto the tree, but in the mean while the jews were cut off so as to make room for the rest of the world. In doing so we should not hate or think we are better than the jews but be thankful for their sacrifice.

33-36 that we should also thank God for all that he has done to make us able to be grafted in even if we do not fully understand how it all works.
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Hmmm? - by Hmmm? - October 30, 2015 at 10:08 am
RE: Biblical Christianity 101, a study of the book of Romans - by Drich - December 7, 2015 at 10:47 am

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