(December 7, 2015 at 11:56 am)Drich Wrote:(December 7, 2015 at 11:19 am)Irrational Wrote: I bet you've never been to any of their home towns. I know for a fact that there are many secular Muslims living in what could be considered as Muslim areas. And even those devout do not all want the whole world under Muslim rule. You are being misleading as usual, Drich.
I have worked with, studied with and employed people "fresh off the boat." People who claim to want to intergrate into society, but only in so far as to allow for their vices. (Drinking/unrestricted sex seems to be the two big objections) outside of that they all hold and maintain the core values of muslim law. (death to infadels prayer and total respect of the religion are still observed.)
I had one guy who 'immigrated' from Iraq the year before, and had another guy who fought in afganistan start to work for me 6 months after the iraqi. The 'Merican had a the word "Infadel" tattoo on the inside of his forearm in Arabic. Now as progressive as the Iraqi wanted to be, he could not get past working with a man with an infidel tattoo. once he found out everyone had general tattoos he left.
Again this guy supposedly wanted to integrate into the culture. and he himself would have been considered to be an 'infadel' by his hard core "No-go zone brothers", but because we had no regard or any respect for the Koran what so ever he felt his 'soul' was endanger and could not stay.
Point? The OP discussion and my response is about how Muslims will NOT ever fully intergrate into this culture. And if you find Christianity oppressive, then wait till you are forced to live under sharia law. where Atheists like Christians are put to death.
You know sharia means different things to different Muslims, right?
And I've lived with, and have, Muslim relatives (devout ones so to speak). Your claim that all devout Muslims want the whole world to be under Muslim rule is at least misleading, if not wrong. Misleading because some of them just don't care about such an "ultimate goal". And besides, no different from many devout Christians who believe the world will be under the rule of Jesus.
