RE: Why do Atheists defend Islam?
December 8, 2015 at 9:16 pm
(This post was last modified: December 8, 2015 at 9:27 pm by God of Mr. Hanky.)
(December 8, 2015 at 5:16 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: [quote='God of Mr. Hanky']
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Muslims do respond when terror attacks shock the world, but on social horrors which you would probably not wish to see practiced in your own neighborhood, very little is said. These fundamental problems relate directly to the personality of Mohammad, whose tale was written not by people who were not the product of Greek culture, but of desert raiding, horse-stealing, woman-beating, and slave-marketing machismo. Reform of a religion is much easier when you have a compassionate hippie dude like Jesus as your central figure to look to for behavioral standards, while a dick like Mohammad, remembered as he is, is keeping Muslims forever in the 7th Century. You cannot criticize what he did without denying him as your holy man, a serious threat to any faith in Islam, and this has the imams threatening with violence anyone who makes such criticism in defense of their job security
Quote:Mohammed was no worse than Moses, having a barbarian as the major figure of your religion isn't a key problem.No, these two characters were not the same!
It probably doesn't matter that one in your comparison for argument was real, while the other was fiction. However, Moses, as the story tells it, was no barbarian. He was highly educated, very smart, and hardly described as the sort who enjoyed the company of horse thieves, slave traders, and other brutes. He was also bad-tempered, megalomaniacally ambitious, and vindictive, but none of those traits ever made one a barbarian. He did not proudly beat his wives, nor did he teach others to do the same.
The tale of Moses supported the culture of a people who believed they were insignificant to their world, as they struggled to rise above their slave origins (whether or not there's any truth on this, they believe it), and make something better of their culture. The tale of Mohammad glamorized the excesses of a culture which existed by stealing from others, selling them into slavery, and laying waste wherever they went after thousands of years of intense cattle grazing while shunning agriculture. Nothing similar here at all!
Quote:Iranian and Afghani women had their heads uncovered and their skirts up to their knees in the seventies. The West played a key role in changing that.
Well of course exposure to different cultures and new ways influence changes in people, what's your point with that? It also had a deleterious impact on religious support as well (particularly Islam in Afghanistan), which really pissed off Middle Eastern imams.
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