Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
December 9, 2015 at 12:37 pm
(December 8, 2015 at 12:29 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(December 8, 2015 at 12:05 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I love how theists badger us to provide evidence to disprove their beliefs; really, really, real scientific evidence, and when we do demonstrate scientific evidence (ex: QM) their comeback is, "well, stupid old science doesn't mean anything anyway." *sigh*. You guys must feel exhausted after a several day round with the likes of Chad...
No one said that science doesn't matter, only that people must be clear about the kind of knowledge it provides and the kind of knowledge it presupposes.
Quantum Mechanics works. Newtonian physics works also. Both describe in mathematical language an underlying reality. If someone says that QM is ‘true’ he mistakes the map for the terrain. Someone else could just as easily say that Newtonian physics is ‘true’.
Within a logical positivist methodology, the scientific narratives do not conflict when used within the scope of their application. Neither, however, speaks to the underlying ontology of the thing described. Divorced from metaphysics of being, scientific inquiry of the natural world yields story about a set of accidental features but not the essential natures of beings.
In other words, natural science presupposes the metaphysical concept of essential natures that philosophically shallow atheistic positivists deny because they accept only empirical findings.
Okay...I am no great intellect or logicist, but I'm calling bullshit on all that philosophical rubbish. It was just a long winded way of saying that science is good and fine only when it works in favor of your philosophies. When science contradicts them, you fall back on the total cop-out idea that there is some OTHER type of really, really, real reality that science is not capable of accessing or illuminating fully. Cop-out. And perfectly convenient for the theist, as he can cast all pesky, unpleasant empirical findings out of the arena, and keep all his magical god crap in that special other reality where science apparently can't reach. How safe for you.
"Because I said so," DOESN'T COUNT....[emoji33]
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.
