(December 13, 2015 at 7:13 pm)athrock Wrote:(December 13, 2015 at 1:35 pm)Cato Wrote: You've already been shown how long these arguments and their refutations have existed. I understand this is new to you and you seem enamored and convinced, but there's nothing to be seen here that most of us haven't already considered. Peril? You have grossly exaggerated the efficacy of your claims. There's nothing perilous in these arguments to an atheist's position. You would do yourself a tremendous service if you finished reading about these arguments at the link I provided.
My claims? I didn't come up with this stuff.
But actually, I have been reading, Cato. Surely you must know that refutations of the refutations have also been around for a long time.
Clearly, if theists had NO good arguments, the party would have been over for them long ago, wouldn't it?
That would be assuming that both parties are motivated only by deciding on the truth of the matter. Since no positive evidence against the existence of a magical being can be found in our natural world, apologists will never be shown to be wrong in their belief. But every time they argue that they are right they will go on failing, at least in the judgement of any fair minded observer.