(December 13, 2015 at 10:09 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote:(December 13, 2015 at 9:06 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I would say that the most efficient simulation of a universe could only be a universe. Therefore, nothing COULD simulate a universe.
Yes, a universe. A simulated one would seem just as real to us as a "real" one.
That's what I was saying. The universe is real: maybe as the Matrix or the Mind of God, or a solipsism, but it is real. It's when you try to say what it really IS that any sensible person should lose all confidence.